My friend Chris Lindland (founder of Betabrand) wants to change how we dress—and therefore feel and act—at work. In this wide-ranging interview we talk about how to turn a side hustle into a calling with purpose, the beauty of letting the PEOPLE decide what they want and then building it, self-expression in conservative medical settings (tatoos, clothes, hair), how clothing can affect posture and work ergonomics, and why healthcare and creativity can and must intersect.

He’s giving ZPac members 20% off Betabrand’s Dress Pant Yoga Pants, so get your coupon here and rock some pictures of yourself wearing those in the hospital or clinic!

Get a 20% off coupon for Dress Pant Yoga Pants here!

Check out the original Facebook video here and leave comments and pictures of what YOU wear to work! If you’re running short on bandwidth and phone battery life, you can listen to the optimized audio-only podcast version here on iTunes and Soundcloud. Please subscribe and leave a review, it helps us a lot! The podcast is now available on Spotify as well, spread the word!