Never underestimate the forces of delusion (on ALL sides).
Vaccine co-inventor Paul Offit returns to spit some fire about RFK Jr. and Dr. Oz, pandemic mistakes, public health messaging, Nobel delusions, COVID vaccine science, and much more. And here’s my previous interviews with Paul Offit.
Topics & Timecodes
1:15 Dr Oz
3:30 RFK Jr. & food safety
4:19 RFK’s claim to fame: Mercury in vaccines (Thimerosal)
10:34 RFKās conspiracy thinking & science denialism, why scientists (often) suck at communicating
18:46 Covid vaccines, the allure of conspiracy thinking, what went wrong during the pandemic, lessons learned
26:05 Omicron, does communicating transparently REALLY pay off?
32:09 RFK Jrās role in the Samoan measles outbreak, our take on raw milk & water fluoridation
41:14 Zubinās summary of The Atlantic article, āHow the Ivy League Broke Americaā, by David Brooks, why itās SO important to cultivate UNDERSTANDING
51:26 Paulās take on FDA financial conflicts, why transparency & understanding go hand in hand
54:34 Malone, McCullough, & Ledeppo
59:34 āWeāve seen the enemy, and he is us,ā emotion circling and the power of delusion
1:00:44 Paulās MAJOR award, a walk down Paul & Zubinās memory lane, whatās next for Paul
1:04:24 Is science losing its place as a source of truth? Closing remarks




