Zubin and Zabi. That’s non-dual as f**k right there πŸ˜‚ A 2 hour conversation about how liberation is the end of the need for liberation.⁠

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Timecodes and topics:

0:00 Two Z’s and a Sense of Humor

0:32 The Story of Zabi, An Afghani Kid Who Was Never Quite Okay

1:41 Addiction and the Inner Hole

3:20 What IS the Hole?

4:25 The Seeking Energy, Feed Me Feed Me!

6:29 Literally Googling What’s the Point of Life

8:18 Leo Gura, Alan Watts, and the Beginning of the Unraveling

9:55 Jim Newman Arrives, Two Months of Seeking Ends

11:37 There’s No One: What Jim Is Actually Saying

12:27 The Dying Process, Identity Deconstructing in Reverse Order

14:10 No One Has Ever Done Anything

17:10 Self is An Embodied Energetic Misunderstanding, Not Thought

19:34 Longing for the End of Seeking, Not the Getting

22:18 No Practice, No Self, The Whole Enterprise Collapses

27:04 Knowing Deadens the Appearance, Childlike Wonder Is Already This

29:20 This Is Home, Nothing Is Needed

37:38 Hopelessness Is Freedom

42:57 Why Suffering Doesn’t Fit

49:23 The Solidity Trap, Making Things Real Is the Suffering

51:25 Hopelessness Is Freedom, Said Again, Meant Completely

54:20 Where Do You Go When You Die? This Is That.

56:07 Comedy and Tragedy at Once

59:00 Zen, Process, and No Doer, Selves Trying to Wake Selves Up

1:01:25 The Sense of Separation Is Literally the Cause of All Suffering

1:05:07 The Energy of Discontent, Certain This Can’t Be It

1:09:42 No One Is Doing This, The Enterprise Collapses Under Itself

1:13:25 E40, Rasputin’s, and CDs, Life Is Already Here

1:16:38 Home Beyond Belief, What Swallows It Up

1:25:02 All the Struggle of Me Was for Nothing

1:26:58 Patterns Falling Away: Road Rage, Conditioning, Autopilot

1:32:45 The Guardrails Come Off, Just the Conditioning Left

1:35:27 Grief, Loss, and Awe

1:39:51 This Is Love, Known Without Knowing

1:42:14 Specialness Falls Apart, The Disappointment That’s a Gift

1:48:35 Nothing Was Ever Going to Be Enough

1:51:37 The End of the Comparing Mind

1:54:20 Free Will? There’s No One to Have It or Not Have It.

1:57:59 Energetics Settling Out: A Fizzing

2:00:22 Liberation Is the End of the Need for Liberation

2:01:14 Joy of These Talks. No Reason. Still Joy.

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